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"iewk pfrKU awK"-"bfpU pfrs" -iekbfl mfhl

          kvIsLr krnYl isMG 'pfrs' rfmUvflIaf pMjfbI gfiekI aqy ikwsfkfrI ivwc iewk jfixaF pihcfixaF nF hY[ ipCly swq dhfikaf  qoN Auh afpxI kvIsSrI dI nvyklI pihcfx df sdkf Dfrimk dIvfnF jF ipMzF dy aKfiVaF ivc Cfieaf irhf hY. Bfrq ivc rihMidaF mYN ijLMdgI df bhuqf smF BFvy mflvy ivc hI gujLfiraf pr mYnUM aPLsos hY ik pMjfhivaF aqy swTivaF dy dOr smyN ryzIE aqy grfmoPLon rIkfrzF rfhIN Gr Gr gUMjdy "pfrs" nMU styj Auqy dyKxf mYnMU nsIb nhIN sI hoieaf.

          trFtoN qoN koeI 40 ku mIl dI ivwQ Auqy 'lohy dy sLihr' hYmltn ivc, sfzy iewk snyhI hrpfl isMG dy byty dI julfeI 1977 nMU sLfdI sI. sLfm dI pfrtI dy mMnorMjn dI ijLMmyvfrI mYnMU sONpIN hoeI sI. mYN afpxy gfiek imwqr kuldIp dIpk aqy kuJ sfijMLidaF dy nfl ies sLfm gIq sMgIq df progrfm pysL kr irhf sF. mYN progrfm dI sLrUafq leI hfly kuJ lPjL hI boly  sn ik icwtI dfhVI vfly iewk bfjLurg ny iewk zflr df not myry hwQ PVf ky myrI ipwT `qy QfpVf idwqf. jfx lwgy ny myry kMn kol af ky hOly ijhy ikhf, "kfkf qUM styj df DnI rhyNgf." mYN hYrfn sF. afm progrfmF ivwc sroqy gIq sMgIq qoN pRsMn ho ky gfAux vfilaf nMU ienfm dyNdy qF vyKy sn pr styj Auqy skqwrI krn vfly nMU ienfm ? ieh ikvyN ho skdf hY! mYN myjLbfn qoN puwiCaf,"ieh bfbf jI kOx hn?" qF Aus ny dwisaf ik ieh kvIsLr krnYl isMG rfmUvflIaf hY. ieh myrI qy "pfrs" dI pihlI mulfkq sI. Aus idn qoN hI sfzI sFJ df ieho ijhf irsLqf sLurU hoieaf ik mYN Aus dy DIaF-pwuqF vFg Aus nMU bfpU jI kih ky sMboDn krdf hF. Aus dy cfry puwqr qy dovyN DIaF mYnMU vI afpxf Brf hI smJdy hn.  kwlH jdo iekbfl ny tYlIPon krky ieh mnhUs KLbr dwsI. "bfeI afpxf bfpU cwl visaf!" qy mn ivc iek hOl ijhf ipaf Bfvy afpxI ipCly isqMbr dI Bfrq dI PyrI smyN jdoN rfmUvfly pfrs horF nMU imlx igaf qF Aus dI hflq kfPI qrs Xog sI.

          "pfrs" iewk ijLMdf idl iensfn sI. Aus dI socxI ivsLfl sI qy Auh afpxI gwl dlIl nfl krn df afdI sI. Auh afp dsdf  huMdf sI ik bcpn ivwc mfqf ipqf dy sfey qoN vFJy ho jfx nfl Gr dI hflq bVI nfjLuk sI. sfrI ijLMdgI iksy skUl df mUMh nhIN dyiKaf, ies dy bfvjUd vI Auh Drm, isafsq, sfihq jF jIvn dy iksy vI aihm ivsLy Auqy zUMGI jfxkfrI rKdf sI. ies df vwzf kfrx ieh sI ik Auh pVHn df bhuq sLOkIn hY. Aus dy pVHy hoey aKbfr nMU jy dyKI df sI qF Aus vwloN klm dI lfl ishfeI nfl nvyN jF kuJ Kfs sLbdF Auqy insLfn lfey imldy sn. Auh pMjfbI, AurdU qy ihMdI df qkVf aiBafsI sI. Auh sYNkVy lPLjLF leI ihMdI, AurdU, aqy pMjfbI dy ZukvyN bdl qurMq dws dyNdf sI. aKbfr, irsfly  qy ryzIE Aus dy vwzy aml sn qy ienHF iqMnF sfDnF df Auh  inwqnymI sI.

          BfvyN "pfrs" ny sfrI Aumr Dfrimk dIvfnF dI hfjLrI BrI hY pr rvfieqI Drm kFzF ivc Aus df AuWkf hI ivsLvfsL nhIN sI. Aus dI soc qrkvfdI sI. Auh smuwcI mfnvqf nMU ipafr krdf sI qy iewk iswK prvfr ivc jnm lYx dy bfvjUd ktwVvfd qoN bhuq dUr sI. sfrI ijLdMgI Auh hr gwl nMU qrksLIl njLrIey qoN nfpdf irhf hY. "pfrs" ny afpxf sfrf jIvn lokF ivc gujLfiraf. iewk kvIsLr dy nfqy Auh ipMzF ksibaF qy sLihrF ivc KusLI jF gLmI dy pRogrfm pysL kIqy, pr afpxy isrjy hoey asUlF nMU sdf brkrfr riKaf. jy iksy pRogrfm dI iewk vfr sfeI PwV leI jF hF kr idwqI, qF iPr iksy hor jgHf progrfm krn leI koeI ikMnI vI vwD vI rkm pysL kry kdy svIkfr nhIN kIqI. Aus ny afpxy prsMskF nfl pysLfvr gvweIey dI bjfey pirvfrk sFJF bxfeIaF sn, jo Auh hfly qwk pfl af irhf sI.

          "pfrs" dI kivqf df vI afpxf hI rMg hY[ Auh sDfrn sLbdF ivc zUMGy iKafl icqrdf hY[ Aus dI kivqf srl hox dy bfvjUd zUMGI hY aqy sRoiqaF leI isrjI hox kr ky suxn vfly dy idlo-idmfgL `qy jf AuWkrdI hY.

          Auh kivqf dI rcx ikiraf nMU iek isLlpkfr vFg GVdf sI qy ies kfrj nMU "kivqf bxfeI" kihMdf[ isLlpkfrI ivwc Auh mfhr sI. pUrn dI mqryeI mF lUxF dy slvfn nfl k-joV dI ijhVI gwl isLv btflvI ny afpxy sLfhkfr kfiv-rcnf "lUxF" ivc kIqI hY "pfrs" ieh gwl Aus qoN 30 sfl pihlf kih cwukf sI: Aus dy pUrn dy ikwsy ivwc lUxf vwloN pUrn nUM sMboiDq iewk CMd hY ijs ivwc lUxf kihMdI hY:

qyrI myrI pUrnf kI irsLqydfrI?

Puwl iks qrFH bx igaf, qIrF df BwQf;

ikhVy irsLiqEN cobrf qUM tyikaf mwQf[

lfz lzfey kdoN mYN idwqI kd lorI;

mYnUM mfqf afKdYN qUM mwlojLorI[

idwqf mF mF afK ky idl qoV inkMimaF;

nf mYN godI cuwikaf, nf kuwKoN jMimaF[

nfnk dfdk qoN rlLy nf sLfKL qumfrI

qyrI myrI pUrnf, kI irsLqydfrI[[

          kvIsLrI dy Kyqr ivc bulMd avfjL df DnI rxjIq isMG iswDvF Aus df lMmy smyN df sfQI irhf hY. ieho hI kfrx hY ik dovyN iewk dUjy dI rmjL pCfxdy sn[ jy rxjIq isMG, krnYl isG "pfrs" dI kivqf dI isPLq krdf hY qy "pfrs", rxjIq isMG isDvF dI afvfjL dI. jdoN kdy dohF nMU iekwiTaF nMU imlx df mOkf imldf qF AunHF dIaF idlcsp gwlF mwukx ivc nhIN afAuNdIaF. afps ivc ijwQy Auh cMgy imwqr sn AuQy Auh keI virHaF qoN irsLqydfr vI bx cuky sn. "pfrs" ijLMdgI dI srlqf aqy sihXogqf df pRsLMsk irhf hY. Aus dy puwqr iekbfl rfmUvflIaf ny mYnUM dwisaf ik "pfrs" ny afpxy jwQy dy sfQIaF aqy afpxy puwqrF leI ieh asUl bxfieaf sI ik jd iksy dy Gr Tihrn df mOkf imly qF mMjy leI drI, isrhfxf jF cfdr dI mMg nhIN krnI ikAuNik ho skdf hY ieh cIjLF Gr ivwc AuplBD hI nf hox. iesy qrFH rotI Kfx vyly ijMnIaF rotIaF jF dfl sbjLI myjLbfn ny QflI ivwc pRos idwqI Aus qoN vwD BuwKy hox dy bfvjUd vI mMg nhIN krnI.

          "pfrs" sLuD pMjfbI jLubfn ilKx aqy bolx df sLYdfeI irhf hY. Aus dy lVky dsdy hn ik "pfrs" ny AuhnF nUM bcpn qoN hI sLuD pMjfbI bolx dI bkfiedf tRyinMg idwqI. Auh afpxy inafixaF nUM kqfrF ivwc KilafrH ky "j" dy pYr `c peI ibMdI nfl Aucfrx `c afey PLrk dsdf aqy 'ijMdrf" aqy 'ijLMdgI'; 'jnm' ''jLmIn' 'gfjr, 'gLjLl' afidk sYNkVy lPLjL bulvf bulvf ky aiBafs krfAuNdf sI. iesy qrFH 'sLqrI' dI QF 'CqrI' 'sLkx' dI QF 'Ckx' 'muwsLF' dI QF 'muwCF' afidk df PLrk bkfiedgI nfl smJfAuNdf sI.

          klf aqy kvIsLrI dy mfmly `c "pfrs" dI awK bVI pfrKU hY[ Aus kol axigxq lok pwgF lY ky sLigrdI lYx leI afey pr Aus ny afAux vfly ichn-cwkr qoN aMdfjLf lf ky sfPL kih dyxf ik BfeI koeI hor ikwqf aKiqafr kr. iewk vfrI drjLIaF df iewk muMzf "pfrs" qoN sLfgrdI hfsl krn leI  bhuqf hI KihVy pY igaf. "pfrs" ny siqkfr nfl pwg moVidaF ikhf ik kfkf do cfr msLInF lY ky drjLIpuxy dI dukfn KolH lY; qyry `c kivqf vflf ichncwkr mYnUM idsdf nhIN. muMzf AuhI pwg lY ky iksy hor kvIsLr qoN sLigrdI hfsl kr ilafieaf. iqMn ku sfl ku bfhd "pfrs" nUM AuhI muMzf mogy dy bjLfr `c imilaf qF pfrs dy gozIN hwQ lf ky kihx lwgf ik pfrsf qUM swcf sI; mYN qF quk bMdI vI nhIN iswK sikaf, hux myrI drjLI dI dukfn hY qy suhxf gujLfrf krdf hF.

          ievyN hI awj df msLhUr gfiek qy aYktr hrBjn mfn vI "pfrs" qoN hI vrosfieaf hY[ "pfrs" ies muwC-Puwt muMzy nMU 1983 `c myry kol irkfrizMg krvfAux leI lY ky afieaf sI qy mYN ikhf sI ik hfly muMzf kwcf hY. myrI jwjmYNt dI kdr kridaF "pfrs" ny mfn nUM imhnq krn leI pRyiraf. myrf kihxf mnky hrBjn ny 2 sfl idwlI Grfxy dy ivdvfn sMgIqkfr Ausqfd sLyKL hmId sfihb qoN bf-qrqIb sMgIq dI isiKaf leI. ies qoN bfad hI hrBjn mfn gfiekI dy ipV ivwc prvysL hoieaf[ KuLsLI dI gwl hY ik hrBjn mfn ies vyly msLhUrI dI bulMdI `qy hY, aj Gr Gr Aus dy typ vjdy hn[

          trFtoN ivc rihMidaf "pfrs" nfl afm mulfkfq huMdI rihMdI sI. jdo kdI vI imlx df sbwb bxy Aus dI vfrqflfp smyN dI cwl rhI isafsq bfry huMdI, ijs ivc kYnyzf, jF Bfrq hI nhIN sgoN Auh ivsLv Br dI jfxkfrI sFJI krn lg pYNdf. bI bI sI ryzIE df bfkfiedf sroqf hox kr ky ikwQy coxf ho rhIaF hn, kOx ijwqygf, AumIdvfr df vyrvf Aus dy AuNglf dy poitaF Auqy huMdf sI.

Drm bfry pfrs df njLrIaf bVf idlcsp irhf hY: Aus df ivcfr sI,"Drm aqy isafsq kdy iewk nhIN ho skdy, isafsq Drm ivc vV ky Drm nUM nsLt kr idMdI hY; qy isafsq ivc Drm df suafl hI pYdf nhIN ho skdf!" ieh gwl Auh CfqI Tok ky sfrI Aumr kihMdf irhf hY.

          "pfrs" smyN df pfbMd sI. iksy dy jfxf hovy jF iksy ny Gr afAuxf hovy Aus dI awK GVI dI sUeI Auqy rihMdI,  jd kdy Aus nMU myry nfl koeI kMm hovy qF Auh Pon Auqy khygf,"mfhl! mYN qyrf isrP iewk hI imMt lYxf hY[" qy Auh afpxI vfrqflfp iewk imMt ivc mukfky Pon bMd krn dI krdf sI.

          "pfrs" loVvMdf dI idwl KolHky mwdd krdf sI, grIbF qy mjLlUmF leI Auh afpxf sB kuJ kurbfn krn leI iqafr ho jFdf. afpxy ipMz dy kMmIaf leI Aus ny DrmsLflf, sFJI vrqoN leI iewk ibrD-Gr qy lfiebryrI afpxI kYnyzf dI pYnsLn `cNo mfieaf joVky iqafr kIqI hY.  kYnyzf dI PyrI Auqy afey klfkfrF nMU afpxy Gr Kfxy Auqy swdf dyNdf, svrgvfsI Xmlf jI, bIbI suirMdr kOr, gurdfs mfn qy crnjIq ahUjf ijhy klfkfr Aus dI mihmfn invfjLI mfnx ivc PwKr mihsUs krdy afey hn. afey gey dI tihl syvf qoN ielfvf idl KolHky afriQk syvf vI kr idMdf sI.              

          kuJ smF hoieaf trFtoN qoN iewk pMjfbI siBafcfr df pRymI ny sLfier surjIq pfqr, bwicaF dy gIq gfAux vflf kmljIq nIloN, pMjfbI zrfimaF dy lyKk aqy zfierYktr zfktr afqmjIq aqy pRisD PotogrfPr aqy jrnilst jnmyjf johl nMU trFtoN lY aFdf. aPsos nfl Aus df imiQaf progrfm sPl nf hoieaf, mYnMU ies df zfhZf duwK hoieaf. mYN afpxy imwqr iekbfl rfmUvflIey nfl rlky ienHF klfkfrF leI iewk progrfm aXojq kr ky kuJ PMz iekwTf krn df ivcfr bxfieaf. imQy idn progrfm suxn "pfrs" vI afieaf hoieaf sI. mYN kol jf ky ikhf,"bfpU jI, pMjfb qoN cwlky ieh klfkfr qy lyKk afey hn, kuJ syvf krogy?" myrI ieMnI kihx dI dyr hI sI ik "pfrs" ny afpxf btUaf myry hwQ `c dy ky ikhf,"lY lf ijny cfhIdy hn!"

          mYN btUaf KoHilaf Aus ivc 50-50 zflrF dy cfr not sn, AunHF ivcoN mYN iewk not kwZ ilaf. DMnvfd krky btUaf vfips "pfrs" nMU dy ky, mYN styj dy ipCvfVy jf ky iekbfl nMU dwisaf ik bfpU jI ny 50 zflr aj dy progrfm vfsqy dy idwqy hn. iekbfl boilaf,"isrP 50 zflr, Auh qF sLfier hY Aus nMU qF 500 dyxy cfhIdy sn!" kuJ ku smyN qoN bfad mYN iPr "pfrs" kol jf KVHf hoieaf. Aus ny mYnMU afey nMU vyKky puwiCaf,"hux hor kI cfhIdf hY?" mYN "pfrs" nMU iekbfl nfl horI vfrqflfp dws idwqI. myry kihx dI dyr hI sI ik "pfrs" ny afpxy btUey dy bfkI dy iqMn not PVfAuNidaf ikhf,"bfkI dy kwlH nMU Gry af ky lY jFvI, pr byby nMU nf pqf lgy."

          mnuwK df ies DrqI Auqy vsybf ikny ku icr df hY koeI nhIN jfxdf[ asI ieQy afAuNdy hF qy aximQy smyN qoN bfad ieQoN sdf leI cly jFdy hF. ipwCy rih jFdI hn cMgy bMidaf dIaF cMgIaF XfdF. ieh jLrUrI nhIN qusI ies Drq Auqy ikMnf icr ijAuNdy ho, jLrUrI ieh hY ik qusI iks ZMg nfl ijAuNdy ho. "pfrs" nMU jIvn jIAux df pUrf slIkf hY!

          "pfrs" iewk vDIaf kvIsLr, iewk suihrd imwqr aqy afpxI imlfpVI sLKsIaq sdkf sfzIaF inwGIaF XfdF df sdf leI iewk aihm ihwsf bixaf rhygf.

 

"jdoN vfrI afeI `qy jhfn Cwz jf

ipwCy pr pYrF dy insSfn Cwz jf

lwK afey myly ivc gLum ho gey,

vwKrI koeI afpxI pihcfx Cwz jf"

 


ijs nUM dysL dy isafsq bfry pqf nhIN Auh bMdf nhIN -krnYl isMG pfrs

sLoRmxI kvIsLr krnYl isMG pfrs rfmUvflIaf nfl ivsLysL mulfkfq

 -BvndIp isMG purbf

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          krnYl isMG pfrs rfmUvflIaf nfm hY Aus sLKsIaq df ijhVf kvIsr hY, ZfzI vI hY, klfkfr vI hY aqy ieiqhfskfr vI hY. ies qoN ielfvf AusnUM anykF sLigrdF df gurU hox df, agFhvDU soc df DfrnI hox df, nyk aqy cMgy pqI hox df, Drm, rfjnIqI, smfijk soc df imlgoBf aqy sYNkVy guxF df DfrnI mnuWK hox df mfx vI pRfpq hY. iek idn sfzf vI pfrs jI nUM imlx df sbWb bixaf. AunHF nfl gWlbfq krn qoN pqf lWgf ik pfrs jI ikMny nyk idl iensfn hn. Auh iksy vI gWl nMU lukf ky nhIN rWKdy. Auh qrkvfd ivc ivsLvfs rWKdy hn. Auh sfry vihm Brm aqy pfKMzF qoN mukq hn. AunHF dy dWsx anusfr pqf lWgf ik pfrs jI ivc iek BWjx (dOVn) df gux aqy dUsrf kvIsLrI df bhuq vWzf gux hY. AunHF dI dOV df AuhnF dy sfry hfxI isWkf mMndy sn. pfrs jI ny mfGI dy myly `qy afpxy ipMz qoN lY ky mukqsr qWk BWj ky jfx dI afpxy hfxIaF nfl sLrq lf leI. rfmUvfly qoN 35 ik[ mI[ kotkpurf hY aqy kotkpurf qoN 25 ik[mI[ mukqsr hY. pfrs jI mukqsr qWk BWj ky hI gey. dUjy mMuzy tFigaF vgYrf `qy cVH gey pr pfrs jI tFigaF dy ipWCy-ipWCy BWj ky hI gey. iek vfr dI gWl hY jdoN pfrs jI inWky ijhy sn. AunHf dI mF ny ipMnIaF bxfeIaF. pfrs jI ipMnIaF KfxoN hI nf hWtx. pfrs jI dI mF ny ipMnIaF sMdUk ivc luko idWqIaF qF pfrs jI kihx lWgy. ''mF, ipMnIaF? kdoN idMnIaF? lAu AunIaF? KfAu ijMnIaF.'' pfrs jI dy mfqf-ipqf pfrs jI dy ies qrHF dy totikaF qoN hYrfn rih jFdy. iek idn asIN pfrs jI dI ieMtrivAU lYx gey asIN AuWQy cfh pI ky kWp QWly rWKx hI lWgy sI ik pfrs jI ny iek idlcsp gWl dWsI ik Auh kdy vI pI ky kWp PrsL `qy nhIN rWKdy, Auh kWp hmysLf AucI jgHf `qy rWKdy hn. AunHF ny afpxI iek Gtnf suxfeI, AunHF ny ikhf ik mYN iek vfr iksy dy Gr igaf. Auh mYnUM cfh PVf ky cly gey. mYnUM cfh pI ky kWp rWKx leI koeI AuWcI QF nf lWBI. mYN kWp rOsLndfn ivc rWK idWqf. Auh afey qF kWp nUM nf vyK ky myry vWl Jfkx lWgy ik ikqy iesny cfh pI ky kWp jyb ivc qF nhIN pf ilaf. Auh afps ivc Gusr-musr krn lWgy ik ieh afdmI ieho ijhf qF nhIN hY ik cfh pI ky kWp jyb ivc pf lvy. AunHF dI do icqI nUM dyK ky mYN AunHF nUM ikhf, ''kWp lWBdy aF, kWp rOsLndfn, ivc ipaf hY.'' AunHF ny puWiCaf ik qusIN kWp rOsLndfn ivc ikAuN rWK idWqf? qF mYN AuhnF nUM dWisaf, ''mYN kdy vI cfh pIx qoN bfad kWp PrsL qy nhIN rWKdf, kWp rWKx leI mYnUM hor koeI AucI jgHf nf lWBI, ies leI mYN kWp rOsLndfn ivc rWK idWqf.'' pfrs jI ny pfTkF leI afpxy bfry jo vI jfxkfrI idWqI Auh ies pRkfr hY

? pfrs jI sB qoN pihlF afpxy ipWCokV bfry jfxkfrI idAu?

* myrf jnm 28 jUn 1916 idn buWDvfr nUM ipMz mrfJ ivKy puinaf vflI rfq nUM svyry 3 vjy quVI vfly aMdr hoieaf. myry ipqf df nF s: qfrf isMG aqy mfqf df nF rfm kOr sI. myrI Aumr 14 sfl dI sI jdoN myry mfqf-ipqf svrgvfs ho gey.

? quhfzy nfm nfl pfrs ikvy lWigaf?

* myrI dfdI ny mYnUM zyry ivc pVHfAuNdy mhMq bfbf ikRsLnf nMd kol Byj idWqf. mhMq ny mYnUM pMj pOVIaF sbk dy idWqf qy mYN Auh iqMn GMitaF ivc hI jubfnI cyqy kr ky mhMq nUM suxf idWqIaF. mhMq KusL ho ky kihMdf, ''jf hux kfkf, Gr afpxy [[[[[[[[ Gry pVHI jfieaf kr.'' mYN afiKaf, ''nhIN, bfbf jI! mYnUM aWgoN pMj pOVIaF df pfT hor idAu [[[[[[[[[[ mYN qF quhfzy koloN hI pVHny.'' Ausny aWglIaF pMj pOVIaF df pfT hor dy idWqf qy mYN cyqy kr ilaf myrI buWDI vyK ky mhMq KusL qy hYrfn hoieaf qy Ausny mYnUM QfpI idMidaF afiKaf, ''kfkf, qUM qF beI pfrs aYN [[[[[[[[[[[[[ sWc-muWc df pfrs.'' bWs Aus idn qoN myry nF nfl 'pfrs' qWKlus pWky qOr `qy juV igaf.

? quhfzI pVHfeI ilKfeI?

* BvndIp, mYN skUl kdy nhIN igaf. mYN pMdrF sfl dI Aumr `c zyry ivcoN hI pVHfeI sLurU kIqI sI.

? quhfzf ivafh?

* myrf ivafh ijLlHf luiDafxf dy ipMz bopfrfey dy s: sMqf isMG qy Bgvfn kOr dI spuWqrI sRImqI dljIq kOr nfl 1938 ivc hoieaf. dljIq kOr dI Aumr Aus vyly kyvl 15 vrHy dI sI.

? quhfzy bWcy?

* myry Cy bWcy hn. cfr lVky aqy do lVkIaF hn.

? AuhnF dy nfm?

* hrcrn isMG (M.A.B.Ed.), blvMq isMG (M.A.B.Ed., L.L.B), rCpfl isMG (M.A.PHD.) (pRo: kYnyzf), iekbfl isMG (pRo: kYnyzf), lVkIaF:- crnjIq kOr (kYnyzf), aqy amrjIq kOr (pRo: sMgrUr) (M.A.B.Ed. PHD.).

? qusIN kvIsLrI dy Kyqr ivc ikvyN afey. quhfzI kvIsLrI kudrq df idWqf hoieaf qohPf hY jF qusIN koeI gurU Dfrn kIqf?

* kvIsLrI df sLOk mYnUM bcpn qoN hI sI. myrI kvIsLrI kudrq df qohPf hI hY. mYN gurU vI Dfrn kIqf hY. mYnUM gurU dI pRfpqI ies qrHF hoeI. mYN afpxy hfxIaF nfl mfGI dy myly mukqsr qwk BWj ky jfx leI sLrq lf leI. myry hfxI qF rsqy ivc QWk ky gWizaF `qy bYT gey, mYN mukqsr qwk BWijaf igaf. mukqsr jf ky mYN Aus vyly dy AuGy kvIsLr mohn isMG roizaf vfly dy jWQy nUM gfAuNidaF suixaf. AunHF nUM sux ky myrf mn tuMibaf igaf. mYN AunHF nUM afpxf gurU mMn ilaf. mYN AuWQy AunHF nUM afpxI kivqf suxfeI. AunHF ny mYnUM afpxy jWQy ivc sLfiml kr ilaf. mYN pWg dy ky AunHF nUM pUrn rvfieq anusfr gurU Dfrn kr ilaf.

? qusIN sB qoN pihlF styj `qy kdoN gfieaf?

* myrf sB qoN pihlf aKfVf jgrfvF dI rosLnI dy myly `qy sI ijs ivc mYN sB qoN pihlF kivqf ''icn ky nIaF ivc qUM, isdk nI skdf qoV'' gfeI.

? qusIN sB qoN pihlI vfr ryzIE/tI[vI[ qy kdoN gfieaf?

* sMn 1954 ivc sfzf jWQf afkfsLvfxI kyNdr jlMDr qoN pihlF pRvfinq kvIsLr ho igaf. sfzI afvfjL ryzIE `qy guMjx lWgI. ieAuN ipMzF ivc dUr-dUr qWk sfzI pRisWDI ho geI, ipMzF dy lok gWlF krn lWgy, ''beI, pfrs rfmUvflIey df jWQf hux ryzIE `qy vI bolx lWgf hY.''

? kvIsLrI qusIN pihlF hI ilK ky rWKdy sI jF nfl hI nfl joVdy sI?

* jdoN mYN kvIsLrI krdf sI qF kvIsLrI pihlF ilK ky pUrI qrHF Tok vjf ky iqafr krdf hF.

? quhfzI gfeI kvIsLrI dI koeI kYist afeI hY?

* nhIN, myrI gfeI kvIsLrI dI kYist koeI nhIN afeI. Aus vyly qvy cWldy sn. myry gIqF dy 20-22 qvy afey hn. ijnHF ivc muWK hn :-

''ikAuN PVI ispfhIaF ny ByxoN ieh hMsf dI joVI, hY afAux jfx bixaf dunIaf cfr idnF df mylf, qyry hyT jMzoiraF mYN ho geI rMzI,  BWj dfnf bfad cWlIey, dWs bylo jubfnoN nI bwkIey ikQy myrf imrjLf, sWsI dI mF boly DIey iesLk dI burI ibmfrI, imMnqF qyrIaF krdI, GiVaF pfr lMGf dy vy, qoiqaF nUM bfg bVy, cUck bfbl df ho igaf dysL bygfnf. ieh qvy 1950 qoN lY ky 1954 ivckfr afey.''

? quhfzy smkflI kvIsLr ikhVy-ikhVy hn?

* Aus vyly bhuq ijLafdf kvIsLr sn. ijnHF aWCrU rfm KfeI,, CWjU isMG cMdrflf ipMz JnyVI, sLyr isMG sMdl qKqpurf, vDfvf rfm, idbHVy vflf bfrU mWGr, sLyK Kfry brnflf vflf, hjLUr isMG butfrI vflf aqy skrONdI vflf cMnx isMG afid pyNzU lokF ivc cMgy kvIsLr mMny jFdy sn.

? afpxI ivdysLI Xfqrf bfry cfnxf pfE?

* myry lVky hrcrn isMG, rCpfl isMG aqy iekbfl isMG kYnyzf cly gey qy QoVy smyN bfad mYnUM vI AuQy hI sWd ilaf. mYN kYnyzf clf igaf qy afpxy jWQy nUM vI lY igaf. AuQy jf ky asIN keI pRogrfmF ivc gfieaf. AuQy lokF ny sfnUM rWjvF ipafr-mfx qy pYsf-Dylf Byt kIqf. Pyr ieMglYNz aqy amrIkf vI gey.

? quhfnUM sLRomxI kvIsLr df avfrz kdoN imilaf?

* BfsLf ivBfg pMjfb ny 1980-1981 ivc pitafly ivc mYnUM sLRomxI kvIsLr aYvfrz dy ky snmfinq kIqf.

? quhfzy ihsfb nfl Drm aqy rfjnIqI df kI myl hY?

* koeI myl nhIN.

? quhfzy spuWqr s: blvMq isMG isafsq ivc ikvyN cly gey?

* mYN AusnUM afp isafsq ivc pfieaf. Auh Cotf ijhf hI sI jdoN mYN AusnUM isafsq dy dfa pyc isKfAuxy sLurU kr idWqy. ijs nUM dysL dy isafsq bfry pqf nhIN Auh bMdf nhIN. ies leI mYN blvMq nUM isafsq ivc pfieaf.

? quhfzI koeI nf BuWlxXog Gtnf?

* bhuq hn. bWs aYnf hI kih lvo ik bhuq mfVy qoN mfVy idn vyKy.

? afpxy sLfigrdF bfry dWso?

* myry lWgBg 20 sLfigrd hn.

? koeI Kfs, ijnHF qoN quhfnUM bhuq afs hovy, ijnHF ny quhfzIaF afsF vI pUrIaF kIqIaF hox?

* vYsy qF myry vfsqy sfry hI sLigrd Kfs hn. pihly nMbr `qy gursyvk mfn aqy hrBjn mfn hn.

? hrBjn mfn nfl quhfzf hor koeI irsLqf?

* hrBjn mfn aqy gursyvk mfn bhuq icr myry nfl rhy. myry vWzy lVky hrcrn dI lVkI hrmndIp kOr ny sfnUM ikhf ik myrf ivafh hrBjn mfn nfl kr idAu. asIN KusLI-KusLI hrmndIp kOr df ivafh hrBjn mfn nfl kr idWqf. ies qrHF hrBjn mfn sfzy Gr df jIa hI bx igaf.

? quhfnUM aYnf mfx-snmfn imilaf qusIN kI mihsUs krdy ho?

* bhuq KusLI mihsUs huMdI hY. mYN smJdf hF ik ieh myrI GflxF df Pl hY jo ik mYN 85 sflF dI GflxF nfl kmfieaf hY ijhVf lok mY nUM aYnf mfx-snmfn idMdy hn.

? koeI aijhf armfn ijhVf quhfzy idl ivc rih igaf hovy?

* ijhVf armfn rih igaf Auh kdy pUrf nhIN hoxf.

? sfnUM vI dWs idAu ikhVf armfn quhfzy idl ivc rih igaf?

* mYN cfhuMdf sI ik isrP rfmUvfly ivcoN rfmUvflf klF, Cotf rfmUvflf aqy hrcovflf rfmUvflf ivc iqMn mMuzy aijhy imldy ijnHF nUM kvIsLrI df sLOk huMdf. mYN AunHF nUM aijhI tRyinMg idMdf ik Auh pihly mhIny hI tI[vI[ `qy phuMc jFdy qy myrf bixaf jWQf pihly pRogrfm `qy hI cMd vFg cmkx lWg pYNdf.

? pfTkF leI koeI sMdysL?

* bynqI kr skdf hF ik ies rsfly aKLbfrF nUM jLrUr pVHo, pVOclvI aqy GoKvI idRsLtI pVHo aqy ies dIaF KUbIaF aqy KfmIaF qoN adfry nUM sUicq kro.

hux qwk KLbrnfmf dI vYWb sfeIt nUM pfTk vyK cuwky hn

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