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qfjdfm dy nf amIrF dy, dIvy bldy sdf PkIrF dy -BvndIp isMG purbf

brkq iswDU nfl mulfkq

 

          brkq isWDU nfm hY Aus sLKsIaq df ijs dI gfiekI hI Aus leI Kudf hY aqy suBf vyly df irafj hI Aus dI nmfjL hY Aus ny Coty huMidaF hI sMgIq dI vrnmflf nUM afpxy idmfg aMdr ibTf ilaf sI. jdoN brkq gfAuNdf hY qF diraf df pfxI klolF krnf BuWl jFdf hY. Auzy jFdy pMCIaF dI prvfj ruWk jFdI hY.

          cfhy afriQk qMgI ny brkq nUM bhuq sqfieaf. Aus qy jvfnI nhIN afeI pr Aus dy mn ivc vI koTIaF kfrF df cfa sI. ienHF cfvF nUM pUrf krn leI Aus ny aYc aYm vI nfmk kMpnI ivc ''Gry afAux nf idMdIaF rMnf ksLmIr dIaF'' nfm df qvf irkfrz krvfieaf. pr sroiqaF ny AusdI gfiekI nUM kbUl nf kIqf. Aus dIaF sDrF aDUrIaF rih geIaF. jd ryzIE, tI[vI[ df jLmfnf afieaf qF brkq dI klf df QoVHf bhuqf muWl pYx lWgf. ienHF dy jrIey brkq nUM pRogrfm imlx lWgy ijs kfrn Aus dI kbIldfrI dI gWzI irVx lWgI. brkq isWDU qy bhuq JWKV July pr Aus ny hmysLf gfiekI nfl mF-puWq vflI sFJ rWKI. pihlF qF gfiekI df ieh vWgdf diraf aWKoN Auhly irhf. pr holI-holI kdrdfnF ny brkq isWDU nUM afpxIaF plkF qy ibTf ilaf. aWj brkq isWDU nUM kOx nhIN jfxdf. Auh iksy jfx-pihcfx df muhqfj nhIN. hr gfiek brkq isWDU jI df nfm bVy adb, ipafr nfl lYNdf hY.

          mYnUM iek idn brkq isWDU jI nfl gWlbfq krn df suBfg pRfpq hoieaf. mYN qy myry do dosq asIN AunHF dy Gr gey. AuWQy asIN kfPI lMmF smF brkq isWDU jI nfl gWlbfq krdy rhy. AunHF nfl kIqI gWlbfq ivcoN kuJ aMsL pfTkF leI :

? brkq jI sB qoN pihlF afpxy ipCokV bfry cfnxf pfE?

- myrf jnm 1939 ivc ipqf sRI lfl cMd dy Gr mfqf pTfxI dI kuWKoN hoieaf. myrf jWdI ipMz gVf hY, sulqfnpur dy kol. myrf bcpn AuWQy hI bIiqaf. AunHF simaF ivc PlWz bhuq afAuNdy sn. iek vfr PlWz af igaf. ijs kfrn asIN nfnky ipMz sLfhkot af ky rihx lWg pey.

? quhfzy gfiekI dy sLOk ny kdoN aMgVfeI leI?

- jdoN asIN nfnky ipMz af ky rihx lWgy qF myry nfnky kvflIaF gfieaf krdy sn. mYN vI AunHF dy nfl pRogrfmF qy jfx lWg ipaf. AudoN ibjlI nhIN huMdI sI. boql ivc qyl pf ky Aus AuWpr afty df mMUh bxf ky Aus nUM jgHf ky mMuizaF nUM PVf dyxI qy afp kvflIaF gfAux lWg pYxf.

? brkq jI quhfzy Ausqfd?

- byty, mYN qF kihxf ik ijs ny Ausqfd nhIN Dfiraf Aus df qF rWb hI rfKf hY. jdoN asIN kvflIaF gfAuNdy sF qF myry ipqf jI ny soicaf ik mMuzy ivc cMgy gux hn. jykr ies nUM iksy cMgy Ausqfd kol CWz dyeIey qF ieh kuJ bx skdf hY. Pyr myry ipqf jI ny mYnUM Aus smyN dy msLhUr Ausqfd sLfsqrI sMgIq dy DnI jnfb kysr cMd jI nkodr vfilaF pfs Cwz idWqf. Ausqfd ny sfnUM pihlf ''jfg-jfg ab nMd dulfry, bor BeI icVIaF cih culfry.'' qIn qfl ivc krvfieaf aqy ies qoN bfad ''kWcI klI qy nfjuk idl myrf, kflI kMGI nfl vfl mYN vfAuxI, sohixaf GoVI vfilaf rfhIaf afid anykF cIjLF sKfeIaF.

? brkq jI, qusIN AudoN dI AusqfdI sLigrdI aqy hux dI AusqfdI sLigrdI ivc kI Prk mihsUs krdy ho?

- bhuq ijLafdf Prk pY igaf AudoN dI aqy hux dI AusqfdI sLigrdI ivc. AudoN asIN isr qy bfjF rWK ky Ausqfd kol jfxf. jdoN asIN AunHF dy bfr ivc phuMc jFdy sI qF sfzIaF lWqF kMbx lWg pYNdIaF sn. asIN jf ky borI qy bYTxf qy Pyr AunHF ny sfnUM rfgf bfry jfxkfrI dyxI. AudoN sfry sLigrd isrP iek gurU dy bxky rihMdy sn qy hux qy kdy iksy kol aqy kdy iksy kol. nf pihlF vfly gurU rhy hn aqy nf pihlF vfly sLigrd.

? aWj dy sLigrdF bfry kI khogy ijhVy kdy iksy kol aqy iksy kol qury iPrdy hn?

- mYN qF jI bWs ieho khFgf.

dr dr dI dur dur nfloN,

qUM bxjf iek dr df.

ies dr df hY Auh dr dfmn,

ijs dr df qUM brdf.

buly sLfh jy iPry qUM dr-dr

sfihb mfPL nhIN krdf.

? brkq jI qusIN pVfeI ilKfeI ikWQoN qWk kIqI hY?

- mYN skUl nhIN igaf. mYN qF Gry hI suafh iKlfr lYxI qy Aus qy hI vWzy-vWzy aWKr ilKxy. pihlF iek mhInf Gry pYNqI (35) isKI Pyr ihMdI qy Aus qoN bfad AurdU.

? brkq jI, afpxy pirvfr bfry vI dWso?

- myrf ivafh mogy dy nfl lWgdy ipMz qfryvflf ivKy hoieaf. myrI pqnI df nF hMso hY. myry iqMn lVky hn suirMdr isWDU, mihMdr pfl qy rfijMdr lfzI.

? brkq jI quhfnUM ryzIE qWk phuMcx df mokf ikvyN imilaf?

- mYnUM AuhnF ny AuWQy bulfieaf sI. mYN ryzIE qy gfAux leI koeI Pfrm nhIN Biraf. mYN lgfqfr ryzIE qy gfAuNdf irhf. Pyr mYnUM vWzy zfierYktr ny ikhf ik qUM bhuq vDIaf gfAuxf ey. AunHF ny myrI afvfjL irkfrz kr ky idWlI afkfsLbfxI nUM Byj idWqI. ijWQoN mYnUM 1 klfs imilaf.

? brkq jI qusIN sUPLI gfiekI ikAuN ijLafdf gfAuNdy ho?

- vyKo jI hjLrq vfrs sLfh, buly sLfh, sYPl mlk afid pIrf-PkIrF dy klfm gfAux nfl, nfly iebfdq ho jFdI hY qy nfl hI gfAux df vI afnMd afAuNdf hY.

? brkq jI qusIN pOp sMgIq bfry kI kihxf cfhogy?

- ies sbMDI mYN quhfnUM iek gWl suxfAuNdf hF, kihMdy hn ik iek bfg ivc suWkf Gfh ipaf sI. jImINdfr ny Auh Gfh cuWk ky afpxy bld nUM pf idWqf. suWkf Gfh dyK dy bld Kfvy nf. jImINdfr ny bld dy hry Gopy (aYnkF) lgf idWqy. bld nUM Gfh hrf lWgf qy Auh Kfx lWg ipaf. iesy qrHF pop gfiekI hY. kuJ cfqr idmfg lokF ny Pok gfiekI ivc ivdysI qrjF pf ky Aus nUM pop bxf idWqf qF ik lok Aus nUM sunx lWg pYx.

? brkq jI qusIN kfPI lMmy smyN qoN bfad kYst krvfeI hY aijhf ikAuN?

- kYst qF jI mYN krvfAuxI nhIN sI cfhuMdf, ikAuNik kMpnIaF vfly afpxy ihsfb nfl gvfAuxf cfhuMdy hn. gIqF nUM afpxy ihsfb nfl PlmfAuxf cfhuMdy hn. pr iksy hor dy qOr qrIky nfl gfvF. myry gIqF ivc kMpnIaF vfly aD-nMgIaF kuVIaF ncfAux, ieh mYnUM mnjLUr nhIN sI. ieh myrI jLmIr iejfjLq nhIN sI idMdI.

hF, Pyr kuJ smyN bfad H.M[V. kMpnI ny myrI kYst kIqI hY ''sr Auqsv'' ijnHF ny myry anusfr kMm kIqf hY.

? brkq jI kI gIq df iPlmFkx jLrUrI hY?

- ieh afpo afpxI soc hY. pr myry anusfr klfm aWCf hoxf cfhIdf hY Pyr gIq df iPlmFkx hovy jF nf hovy koeI Prk nhIN pYNdf ijvyN iksy sLfier ny iliKaf hY -

qfjdfm dy nf amIrF dy,

dIvy bldy sdf PkIrF dy.

? brkq jI qusIN sfihq pVHx df sLOk vI rWKdy E?

- hF jI mYN cMgy sLfierF dIaF ikqfbF ijvyN isLv kumfr btflvI, surjIq pfqr, aMimRqf pRIqm aqy hor iesy qrHF keI cMgy sLfier hn ijnHF dIaF ikqfbF mYN pVHdf hF.

? brkq jI qusIN afp vI sfihq rqn df sLOk rWKdy E?

- hF veI! mYN sWsI ilWKI hY, jy sWsI ny guWsf kIqf qF rWb qy kIqf. Aus ivcoN quhfnUM kuWJ sqrF suxfAuNdf hF. sWsI kihMdI hY -

sWsI mYN kI AumrF dI jfgdI sF,

mYQoN hoeI af kI aYnI Kqf rWbf.

qUM qy jfgdf sI qyry ivhidaF hI,

lWg igaf grIb nUM dfg rWbf.

myry vFg lVdI ikDry aWK qyrI,

huMdf suWiqaf Xfr judf rWbf.

qUM vI jMglF ivc krlfp krdf

bfh isr qoN Auqfh vDf rWbf.

iek QF sWsI afpxI mF nUM kihMdI ey[[[

aMmf qUM sWcI eyN, mYN sWsI

jy kr rWb huMdf KbrY BuWl jFdI,

aMmf Kfn vflI gWl BuWldI nhIN.

Auhdy afAuNidaF imWt gey gm sfry,

Auhdy jfx vflI gWl BuWldI nhIN.

bWs iesy qrHF bhuq lMmI sWsI ilKI hY jykr ikqy mOkf imilaf qF quhfnUM sfrI suxf idaFgy.

? brkq jI quhfzIaF kuJ aijhIaF styjF vI hoxgIaF. ijhVIaF qusIN kdy nhIN BuWl skdy?

- vysY qF rWb dI myhrbfnI nfl hux qWk sfrIaF styjF hI vDIaF lWgIaF hn. pr kuJ styjF aijhIaF vI hn ijnHF nUM kr ky bhuq KusLI mihsUs hoeI. ijvyN imAuijLk tUzy vfilaF ny ieMzIaf gyt qy pRogrfm krvfieaf sI. ijWQy mYN msLhUr PMnkfr, gulfm alI, hrI hrn, ajy cWkr vrqI, ibsimlf KF (sLihnfeI vfdn) dy nfl Ausy styjF qy gfieaf. iek KusLI BrI styj AudoN kIqI jdoN dUrdrsLn kyNdr jlMDr df nINh pWQr rWiKaf igaf. ijs ivc sB qoN pihlF gfAux df mOkf mYnUM hI imilaf. ieh pRogrfm irkfrz krky bfad ivc tYlIvIjLn qoN tYlIkfst kIqf igaf.

iek styj aijhI jo mYnUM sB qoN vDIaf lWgI Auh afpxy mMqrI lfl ikRsLn azvfnI dy Gr sI. ijWQy myrI styj leI, iek Cotf ijhf QVHf bxf ky Aus AuWqy gohf imWtI Pyr ky qUVI vflf kWp bxf ky qMglI, pMjflI, sMgl afid rWK ky pyNzU mhOl pysL kIqf. AuWQy mYN bhuq vDIaf  mihsUs kIqf.

? quhfzI koeI aijhI qmMnF jo pUrI nf hoeI hovy?

- hF jI myrI ieh qmMnf sI nusrq Pqih alI KF jI nUM imlx dI jo pUrI nhIN hoeI. mYnUM AuhnF df ivCoVf hr vkq Xfd rihMdf hY.

? quhfzI koeI KuafiesL jo qusIN pfTkF nfl sFJI krnf cfhuMdy ho?

- hF jI myrI KuafiesL jF myrI aMiqm ieWCf kih lvo Auh iehI hY ik mYnUM QoVHI ijhI jgHf iml jfvy ijWQy myrf sMskfr hovy. myry BfeIcfry dy gfiek vIr AuWQy afAuNdy rihx aqy AuWQy 24 GMty lMgr cWldf rhy.

? brkq jI aMq ivc gfiek vIrF nUM koeI sMdysL?

- iehnF nUM qF rWb hI sMdysL dy skdf hY. asIN qF sMdysL dy-dy QWk gey. beI afpxy ivrsy nUM nf BuWlo.

PWgx kihMdf jyT nUM sux myry BfeI,

mYN ilaFdI DU GVIs, qUM bMny lfeI.

-BvndIp isMG purbf

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mYN gfiekI ivc af rhy nMgyjpuxy qoN bhuq duKI hF -gurdyv iZWloN (Bjnf amlI)

mulfkfqI BvndIp isMG purbf

 

 

gurdyv iZWloN nfm hY Aus sLKsIaq df ijs nUM lok Bjnf amlI dy nfm nfl jfxdy hn. kfmyzI dy Kyqr ivc ieh nfm iksy jfx-pCfx df muhqfj nhIN. kfmyzI df Kyqr bVf aOKf hY. gfiekI ivc qF jxf-Kxf afpxy afp nUM gfiek khfAux lWg pYNdf hY. kfmyzI ivc cfhy kfPI klfkfr hn pr Pyr vI gfiekI dy mukfbly bhuq GWt hn. ijnHF df kfmyzI ivc nfm hY Auh qF AuNglF qy igxy jf skdy hn. AuhnF ivcoN muhrlI kqfr dy klfkfr hn gurdyv iZWloN jI (Bjnf amlI).

iZWloN sfihb ieMny sfDfrn qy imlxsfr ivakqI hn ik iesdf aMdfjLf hI nhIN lgfieaf jf skdf.  iZWloN sfihb cMgy klfkfr hox dy nfl-nfl cMgy smfj syvk aqy cMgy Ausqfd khfAux dy hWkdfr vI hn. ikAuNik AunHF df iek sLfigrd ieMtrnYsLnl lYbl df klfkfr bixaf hoieaf hY qy lWKF lokF dy idlF qy rfj kr irhf hY. cfhy iZWloN sfihb kuJ kfrnF krky Aus nUM afpxf sLfigrd nhIN mMndy pr Auh aWj jo kuWJ vI hY Auh ieMnf dI hI dyx hY. sfzf vI iek pRogrfm qy AuhnF nUM imlx df sWbb bixaf. ies imlxI ivc AuhnF nfl jo gWlbfq hoeI pysL hn Aus dy kuJ aMsL pfTkF leI.

? sB qoN pihlF afpxy ipCokV bfry dWso?

- myrf pUrf nfm gurdyv iZWloN, Cotf nfm dyv ipqf s[ krqfr isMG iZWloN mfqf svrgvfsI hrnfm kOr, mYN iqMn BfeIaF ivc sB qoN Cotf hF. myrf ipMz hY lMmf jWtpurf qih jgrfAuN ijLlHf luiDafxf. myrf ipMz bVf ieiqhfsk ipMz af. ijWQy 21 idn gurU goibMd isMG jI mhfrfj rhy hn.

? qusIN afpxf ieh kYrIar ikvyN sLurU kIqf?

- gfiekI ivc 1974 ivc mYN hrcrn gryvfl sfihb kol igaf. gfiekI ivc Auh myry Ausqfd sI aqy kfmyzI ivc ky[dIp sfihb myry Ausqfd af. mYN 28-29 sfl qoN ies lfeIn ivc af. mYnUM 5 sfl bfaD 20 rupey pymYNt imlx lWgI sI. ijs ivc mYN gWzI clfAuxI sI, styj vI lvfAuNdf sI ijvyN kihMdy af lIVy kWpVy vI Doey AusqfdF dy, pocy vI mfrny, rotIaF vI lfAuxIaF aqy ies leI mYN bhuq KusLiksmq af, aWj mYnUM ienHF mfx-snmfn iml irhf ey.

? sB qoN pihlF afpxI gRisqI bfry dWso?

- myrI pqnI dljIq kor, shury myry luiDafxy hI af. myrIaF iqMn bytIaF vWzI rmnpRIq kOr, dUsrI ikrndIp kOr, CotI DnjIq Aus qoN Cotf bytf lKnvIr iZWloN. BYx-Brf sfry mYQoN vWzy hI hn sB vWKo-vWK ivafhy hoey af.

? quhfzI ivWidak Xogqf?

- ieh qF nf puWiCaf kro, ividak Xogqf qy Aumr qF nf hI puWiCaf kro (hWsdy hoey), krYktr dy ihsfb, nfl mYN Aus jLmfny ivc mYitRk sI.

? qusIN sB qoN pihlF styj kdoN kIqI?

- sB qoN pihlF styj mYN hrcrn gryvfl nfl mogy dy nyVy iek ipMz sI, nihr dy AuWpr ipMz sI ijs df mYN nfm Bul igaf, ijWQy mYN sB qoN pihlF [[[[[ mYnUM afpxy afp qy bhuq mfx sI ik mYN bhuq suhxf gfAuxf. skUl ivc PYstIvl qy mYN Pst afAuNdf huMdf sI gfiekI ivc.

? qusIN pihlF gfiekI vWl sI Pyr kfmyzI vWl ikvyN af gey?

- jdoN mYN pihlF gfAuxf sLurU kIqf gryvfl sfihb ny mYnUM pysL kIqf qF mYQoN gIq pUrf nhIN gfieaf igaf. myrIaF lWqF kMbx lWg peIaF. Pyr mYN gIq ivcy hI CWz idWqf qy afpxy Ausqfd nUM ikhf ik mYN ieh kMm nhIN kr skdf. Pyr mYN hOlI-hOlI styj sYktrI krdf-krdf iek aWDf Xok suxfAux lWg ipaf. myrI izAUtI pihlF ieh lgf idWqI ik ijhVf ienfm iekWTf hovygf Auh qUM bolxf. AudoN ienfm bhuq iekWTf ho jFdf sI qy kfpI qy ilKI jFdy huMdy sI Auh boldf-boldf mYN ivcy ivc kmyzI bolx lWg ipaf. vYsy mYN gfAuNdf bhuq ipafrf huMdf sI. myrf sv[ jgmohn kOr nfl gIq irkfrz hY aYc[aYm[vI[ kMpnI ivc. primMdr sMDU nfl, sucyq bflf nfl qy hor kfPI lVkIaF nfl myry gIq irkfrz hn.

? quhfzf nfm Bjnf amlI ikvyN ipaf?

- pihlF mYN iekWlf kfmyzI krdf sI. Pyr mYN kYsyt krvfAux lWgy ny soicaf ik jy mYN gurdyv iZWloN krky kYsyt krf qF Auh TIk nhIN lWgdf. Pyr sfzy ipMz iek cfcf huMdf sI Bjnf, sMqI sfzI cfcI huMdI sI ies leI mYN soicaf Bjnf amlI kirktr qkrIbn hr ipMz ivc huMdf hY. ies leI Auh ijhVI myrI pihlI izAUt kfmyzI kYsyt sI ijhVI ihWt hoeI Auh sI mihPLl amlI dI Aus qoN bfad Bjnf amlI, hWz bIqI amlI dI, qfrf zuWb igaf, Gr juafeI, vhutIaF do burIaF, puils kutfpf, amlI Koqy qy, BFgf kWZ idaFgy afid. ieh sfrIaF kYistF hI ihWt hoeIaF.

? qusIN ikhVy-ikhVy klfkfrF nfl kMm kIqf hY?

- ijnHF klfkfrF  nfl mYN kMm kIqf Auh dWs igaf. mYN hrcrn gryvfl qoN lY ky ky[dIp jgmohn kOr nfl 6 sfl lfey. Aus qoN bfad srdUl iskMdr, muhMmd sdIk, hrdIp cMzIgVH, vflf (sLihr pitafly dy vflf) AudoN pihlF iekWTI joVI huMdI sI primMdr sMDU qy jsvMq sMdIlf AunHF nfl, mnjIq rfhI, dljIq kOr, ajy idEl, sumn dWqf afid klfkfrF nfl mYN kMm kIqf.

? quhfzf pirvfr quhfzI ies lfeIn nUM ikvyN lYNdy?

- pihlF qF nhIN sI cfhuMdy ikAuNik AunHF idnF ivc ijLmINdfrF nUM ies pfsy [[[[[. kihMdy sI ieh mrfsIaF df kMm ey qy Pyr guWsy ho ky hI AunHF ny mYnUM lfeIn hor ivc pfqf ielYktRIsLn bYtrIaF, zYnmo df kMm mYN kIqf, bhuq sohxI dukfn sI myrI. pr Pyr gfAux vfilaF nUM dyK ky mYQoN irhf nf igaf. mYN sfrf sfmfn vyc ky hrcrn gryvfl df sLigrd pY igaf. ieh 74 dI gWl hY.

? ieh mYzm sMqI quhfzy sMprk ivc ikvyN afeI?

- ieh tIcr lWgy hoey sI skUl ivc. jdoN mYN dUrdrsLn jlMDr qy pRogrfm krdf sI AudoN myry nfl jf inrml isMG jOVf huMdf sI jF hrivMdr irafV huMdy sI. jdoN do ZfeI sfl lgfqfr kfmyzI kIqI qF sfzy pRoizAUsr huMdy sI mnohr Bfrdvfj Auh kihMdy ies nUM bdlo QoVHf koeI PImyl lWBo. pihlf iek hor lVkI sI pr iPr ieh (sMqI jI) kudrqI mYnUM iksy ZMg nfl iml gey. iPr ienHF nfl myrIaF kYsytF ihWt hoeIaF. pihlF qF ieh kihMdy sI mYN tI[vI[ qy hI jfxf hY, styjF qy nhIN jfxf. ienHF dy ipqf nfl gWl kIqI ik mYN qF kfmyzI hI krnI hY mYN ikhVf zfns krvfAuxf ey. Auh sihmq ho gey, muV ky ienHF nfl kYsytF ihWt hoeIaF vhutIaF do burIaF, amlI Koqy qy, Gr juafeI, BfgF kWZ idaFgy.

? afpxy ivdysLI dOiraF bfry vI QoVHf cfnx pfAu?

- hF sfry kYnyzf, amrIkf, ieMglYNz, afstrylIaf, nfrvy, pMj-pMj, Cy-Cy vfr.

? qusIN hux qWk kul ikMnIaF kYsytF ivc kmYtrI kr cuWky ho?

- mYN hux qWk 50 qoN 60 kYsytF ivc kmYtrI kr cuWkf hF. pihlF mYN iekWlf kfmyzI krdf sI jF bhuq sfrIaF Dfrimk kYsytF ivc myrI kmYNtrI hY ijvyN srdUl iskMdr dI sI Kflsy df rfj ho igaf, mfxk dI sI Kflsy dI cVHdI klf, idlsLfd aKLqr dI sWc nUM PFsI, rfgI BfeI hrijMdr isMG sRI ngr vfilaF dI srsf dy pfxIaF qy hor bhuq sfrIaF Dfrimk kYsytF ivc.

? kfmyzI ivc sPLl hox leI pYsf jF pVHfeI ilKfeI dI koeI BUimkf hY, quhfzf ies bfry kI ivcfr hY?

- nhIN, nf pVHfeI-ilKfeI, nf pYsf. nfm bxfAuxf bhuq aOKf hY jdoN nfm bx igaf Pyr kMpnIaF vI pYsy idMdIaF hn qy dUrdrsLn vfly vI pYsy idMdy hn.

? iPLlmF ivc afAux dI koeI qmMnf?

- koeI myrI qmMnf nhIN, jykr aWCI iPLlm imlygI hF[[[[ pihlF iek iPLlm kIqI sI mYN AuWcf ipMz suKijMdr sLyry dI sI. Pyr iek iPLlm  dyh isLvf br moih iehY ieh vI suKijMdr sLyry ny bxfeI hY ies ivc myrf Cotf ijhf rol hY. adr vfeIj afpxI sLOhrq dI mYnUM ies qoN vWD hor koeI loV nhIN, mYN afpxf iblkul ies gWl qoN sMqusLt hF.

? quhfnUM sroiqaF vWloN ienHF ipafr siqkfr imldf hY qusIN kI mihsUs krdy ho?

- mYnUM bhuq KusLI huMdI hY mYN Coty ijhy pirvfr ivcoN AuWT ky aWj vrlz lYbl qy sfrI dunIaf ivc myrf nfm hY ieh sB mflk dI ikRpf. ieh ijhVI mYN AusqfdF dI syvf kIqI af Auhdf isWtf, Auhdf mYnUM Pl imilaf. ipMzF dy lok mYnUM ieMnf ipafr krdy af, iesy leI myrf pyNzU krYktr af Bjnf amlI, myrI isWD pWDrI bolI af, ijhnUM sfzy ipMzF dy lok bhuq ipafr krdy af.

? quhfzf iek sLigrd af, kfmyzI klfkfr ijs ny bhuq nfm bxf ilaf hY. Auh afpxy afp nUM quhfzf sLigrd nhIN mMndf, Aus bfry qusIN kI khogy?

- mYN AusnUM afpxf sLigrd smJdf vI nhIN nf hI mYN khUMgf ik Auh myrf sLigrd hY pr iek mYN dWsdf ik mYN AusnUM afpxy nfl zyZ so rupey qy rWiKaf, do-ZfeI sfl sB qoN pihlF mYN AusnUM afpxy Gry rWiKaf. qusIN afp eI smJo purbf sfihb bgYr Ausqfd qoN bMdf ho skdf. AusqfdI qF bhuq jLrUrI hY bMdf nhIN mMndf qF vWKrI gWl af. mYN kihMnf ik myry qF Ausqfd hY, AusnUM mYN afpxy kol rWiKaf, zyZ so rupey qy rWiKaf, AusnUM gzI clfAuxI isKfeI, AusnUM tfeI lfAuxI isKfeI, Auh cfr-cfr GMty dUrdrsLn dy gyt dy bfhr KVHf rihMdf sI. AusnUM iek sikMt [[[[[ ajy vI mYnUM Xfd hY ik AudoN iek lWp surmy dI pRogrfm cWldf huMdf sI. hrdIp jI AudoN Aus dy pRoizAUsr huMdy sI. AunHF dIaF imMnqF krky AusnUM mYN aMdr lY ky igaf. srdUl iskMdr hoxf nUM pqf vf ik styjF qy pRbMDkI kmytI nUM kih-kih ky ik myrI afeItm rihx idAu, ies mMuzy dI afeItm lgvfAu. Ausny aWj qWk iksy ieMtrivAu ivc myrf ijLkr vI nhIN kIqf. mYN aijhy bMdy nUM afpxf sLfigrd smJdf hI nhIN.

? vIr jI sfnUM lWgdf ieh gWl puWCx nfl quhfzf idl duiKaf?

- nhIN iblkul nhIN idl duiKaf. iblkul hI nhIN idl duiKaf. mYN PKLr mihsUs krdf ik mYN afpxy AusqfdF dy brqn sfPL kIqy, kWpVy Doqy af, jykr bMdf ies cIjL ivc afpxI hytI smJdf hY qF[[[[. mYN kihxf ik Auh myry nfloN vWzf afritst af Auh aWj 80 hjLfr rupey lYNdf, asIN 10-15 hjLfr rupey lYxy af. AuhI dUrdrsLn ijsny sfnUM bxfieaf Auho ijhf klfkfr kih dyvy ik mYN qF AuWQy jfxf hI nhIN Pyr qF[[[[.

? koeI aijhf armfx jo idl ivc rih igaf hovy?

- nhIN, mYN iblkul sMqusLt af, jykr mYN duKI af qF mYN iek cIjL qoN bhuq ijLafdf duKI af gfiekI ivc nMgyjLpx qoN. gfiek vIrF nUM hWQ bMnH ky bynqI af[[[[[.

? ies vWD rhy nMgyjLpx df jLuMmvyrf kOx hY?

- ies dy jLuMmyvfr-sroqy vI hn. kMpnIaF sB qoN vWD dosLI af. keI vfr isLMgr kih idMdy af ik asIN qF afh kuJ kIqf hI nhIN. AunHF ny bfad ivc zWb kr ilaf pr AunHF nUM vfrinMg idAu ky jykr ies ivc kuJ hoieaf[[[[[AunHF qoN irtn lvo ik asIN pMjfbI zrYWs hI lYxI af kuVIaF dI.

? lok quhfzy bfry vI kih idMdy hn ik Bjnf amlI ijLafdf KulHf  cWl jFdf hY, qusIN ies bfry kI khogy?

- bfhl KulHf [[[[ qusIN dyiKaf ik mYN jy nMgyjL dI gWl krdf vf jF sLyaro sLfierI dI gWl krdf ieh Auh hI gWlF huMdIaF hn jo afm hI GrF ivc gWl huMdI af jykr iksy nUM lWgdf ik mYN ijLafdf KulHf cWl jfnf ey qF mYN AunHF qoN muafPLI cfhuMgf mYN qF afpxy ihsfb nfl gWl krnI hI krnI af.

? vIr jI quhfzI koeI nf BuWlxXog Gtnf?

- jdoN mYN pihlI vfr tUr lfieaf ieMglYNz df srdUl iskMdr nfl AuQy ieMglYNz ivc alfp sLoa sI AuWQy myrf bVf jLbrdsq aYksIzYNt hoieaf sI. ies krky Auh pYr dI aWzI ajy vI CotI af. AudoN mYnUM mflk ny hI dubfrf jnm idWqf.

? quhfzf kfmyzI dy nfl koeI hor sLOk?

- hor myrf koeI Kfs sLOk nhIN. mYN iekWlf bYT ky bhuq KusL af. ies qoN ielfvf ikRkyt df sLOk hY.

? ikRkyt Kyzx df jF dyKx df?

- ikRkyt dyKx df. bfkI mYN jgjIq isMG nUM bhuq suxdf. mYN bhuq jLjbfqI bMdf hF. kfmyzI qF mYN lokF nUM KusL krn vfsqy krdf hF.

? iksy pRqI koeI iglf isLkvf?

- iksy pRqI koeI iglf isLkvf nhIN. sfry KusLI vsx, koeI myrf dusLmx nhIN hY. bWs ieko hI mYnUM isLkvf hY ik nMgyjL qoN QoVHf sfry sWjx, sfry klfkfr nMgyjL qoN htx.

? hor kuJ?

- iek vfr lohVI qy myry nfl iek bhuq vWzI Gtnf hoeI ik myry Bfxjy dI zYQ ho geI. ieko-iek bytf sI. pihlF sfzy BnveIey dI zYQ ho geI sI. lohVI vflI rfq myrf Bfxjf 15 ku sfl df AusdI zYQ ho geI. bfkI mYN juiVaf qF smfj syvI sMsQfvF nfl pihlF vI sI, pr AudoN mYN ieh soicaf ik kuJ QoVHf pYsf afpxy Gr leI rWK ky bfkI ijhVf pRogrfmF df pYsf Auh sfrf smfj syvf vfsqy hI lfAugf. ijvyN ik qlvMzI rfey kI AuQy myrI isstr hY, AuQy mYN iek sWiBafcfrk mylf kIqf ijhVf inrol sWiBafcfrk sI AuQy kuJ lVkIaF dy ivafh vI kIqy, kuJ ivDvf jnfnIaF nUM, BYxF nUM, msLInF jF XqIm bWicaF AunHF nUM sfrI pVHfeI. jd qWk Auh pVHnf cfhux AunHF dIaF PIsF dyvFgf. afAux vfly smyN ivc vI mYN cfhuMgf ik sfrI pymYNt grIb jnqf vfsqy hI lfvF.

? koeI sMdysL?

- sMdysL iehI hY ik qusIN cfr pYsy kmfAux leI, sfzy klcr iesnUM afpxy Pfiedy leI klcr df nuksfn nf kirE. keI dPf vWzIaF-vWzIaF ieMtrivAU afAuNdIaF Auh kihMdy hn ik asIN klcr dI syvf krdy hF. aMdroN kuJ hor huMdy af, lokF sfhmxy kuJ hor huMdy af. mYN kihnf ik jo kuJ aMdr af AuhI bfhr hoxf cfhIdf hY.

? pfTkF nUM koeI sMdysL?

- sfry ijAUNdy vsdy rihx, hWsdy Kyzdy rihx.

? sMqI jI kuJ suafl quhfzy leI. sB qoN pihlF qusIN afpxy ipCokV bfry dWso?

- mYN ijLlHf nvF sLihr, duafby ielfky nUM iblfg krdI af. ienHF nfl kMm krdI nUM keI sfl ho gey. pUrI PYimlI asIN luiDafxy hI rihMdy af. ipqf df nfm rmysL kumfr. mYN ihMdU PYimlI nUM iblfg krdI af. mfqf df nfm ibmlf, mYN ieko-iek isstr af. do Brf vWzy df nfm rxdIp Coty df nfm sMdIp.

? qusIN iZWloN sfihb nfl kMm krky kI mihsUs krdy ho?

- bhuq vDIaf lWgdf, ieh Ausqfd af myry, gurU af myry. ienHF nUM 30-32 sfl ho gey ies lfeIn ivc. mYnUM ienHF koloN kfPI kuJ isWKx nUM imilaf. bhuq vDIaf lWgdf hY.

? quhfzI ies lfeIn ivc koeI aBuWl Xfd?

- asIN mogy dy nyVy mnIlf Pfrm qy pRogrfm lfAux gey sI. myirjL sI koeI. AuQy AunHF ny sfnUM ieMnI irspYkt idWqI. jo mYN ijLMdgI ivc kdI vI nhIN BuWl skdI. sfzy AunHF ny hfr pfey, ijvyN joVI dy pfAuNdy af.

? qusIN kfmyzI lfeIn ivc ikvyN af gey?

- bWs ijvyN prmfqmf ny iliKaf ik qusIN ienHF nfl (iZWloN sfihb nfl) juVnf hI juVnf ey, ies qoN pihlF mYN pRfeIvyt job krdI sI tIcr dI.

? iZWloN sfihb nfl koeI isLkvf?

- isLkvf iehI af ik guWsf ijLafdf ey ieMnf ivc, hor koeI isLkvf nhIN, bhuq vDIaf iensfn af. mYN bhuq lWkI af ikAuNik ieh mYnUM imly ny. iehnF qoN bhuq kuJ isWKx nUM imilaf. bhuq nfeIs af. hr pWKoN TIk af. guWsf hI mfVf hY.

 

 

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